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Post by tmcats » April 17th, 2020, 9:12 am

every day gets us closer to a c'virus medicine and vaccine. i don't see school happening without them but believe one or the other perhaps both will be available by fall. sports schedules will most likely be moved back some but so what?

i also think students will be motivated to get back to their on-campus classes, friends, and lifestyle. matriculating on the p.c. in the parents' basement for four or five months has got to be excruciating for motivated nineteen and twenty-year-olds.


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Post by Number8son » April 17th, 2020, 10:38 am

Hypeman wrote:
April 17th, 2020, 12:34 am
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I don't see why that would have to be a prerequisite. People can do classes online. If I was a player, I wouldn't want to have to delay a year, but that's just me. Currently, there's less than 30 Covid 19 cases in Riley County per Google. If people want football they can easily have football. If people don't want football, they'll make that decision. The players can play to an empty stadium if it comes to that. People can make an excuse for anything if they want. Covid 19 is not the greatest risk football players take.
It certainly isn’t the greatest risk, brain damage and debilitating leg and neck injuries are. But, if players are not allowed to meet in person to have class, they certainly can’t be allowed to meet to play football. There is way more risk to getting the covid rubbing up against other players than sitting 5-10 feet away from another student in class.

Bowlby’s statement is aimed at affecting the political discourse in the region. I suspect he thinks football has that much influence.
There's so much Covid 10 hysteria it has stopped all reasonable thought in my mind. Having players with Covid 19 should not be an issue, They are healthy or at least should be along with coaches and staff who have to healthy for what they do. I don't care if I go to a game and there's a Covid 19 carrier right next to me. If I catch Covid 19(assuming I haven't already had without realizing it like thousands of people), I'm not concerned because of several factors. The world is not a riskless society. Suddenly, in the last two months some people have decided otherwise with the only emphasis on Covid 19.

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Post by Hypeman » April 17th, 2020, 12:49 pm

Number8son wrote:
April 17th, 2020, 10:38 am
Hypeman wrote:
April 17th, 2020, 12:34 am


It certainly isn’t the greatest risk, brain damage and debilitating leg and neck injuries are. But, if players are not allowed to meet in person to have class, they certainly can’t be allowed to meet to play football. There is way more risk to getting the covid rubbing up against other players than sitting 5-10 feet away from another student in class.

Bowlby’s statement is aimed at affecting the political discourse in the region. I suspect he thinks football has that much influence.
There's so much Covid 10 hysteria it has stopped all reasonable thought in my mind. Having players with Covid 19 should not be an issue, They are healthy or at least should be along with coaches and staff who have to healthy for what they do. I don't care if I go to a game and there's a Covid 19 carrier right next to me. If I catch Covid 19(assuming I haven't already had without realizing it like thousands of people), I'm not concerned because of several factors. The world is not a riskless society. Suddenly, in the last two months some people have decided otherwise with the only emphasis on Covid 19.
I’m with you on that, but the news says healthy people are dying too? I believe it is sensationalized, but if regular students can’t go to class, faculty can’t do their research, labs are shut down, etc. and in environments where people don’t touch one another. Sending a group out on the field for our entertainment would be considered barbaric and perhaps borderline criminal.

I think football is done. Especially in the Midwest where the covid response is just starting to ramp up. Perhaps it can take place in California where they claim to be on the downward swing. We out here are supposedly several weeks behind in reaching the peek.

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Post by PurpleOnWhite » April 17th, 2020, 12:51 pm

Number8son wrote:
April 17th, 2020, 10:38 am
Hypeman wrote:
April 17th, 2020, 12:34 am


It certainly isn’t the greatest risk, brain damage and debilitating leg and neck injuries are. But, if players are not allowed to meet in person to have class, they certainly can’t be allowed to meet to play football. There is way more risk to getting the covid rubbing up against other players than sitting 5-10 feet away from another student in class.

Bowlby’s statement is aimed at affecting the political discourse in the region. I suspect he thinks football has that much influence.
There's so much Covid 10 hysteria it has stopped all reasonable thought in my mind. Having players with Covid 19 should not be an issue, They are healthy or at least should be along with coaches and staff who have to healthy for what they do. I don't care if I go to a game and there's a Covid 19 carrier right next to me. If I catch Covid 19(assuming I haven't already had without realizing it like thousands of people), I'm not concerned because of several factors. The world is not a riskless society. Suddenly, in the last two months some people have decided otherwise with the only emphasis on Covid 19.
I don’t disagree that the cv poses little threat to the vast majority of people. It’s likely that millions of citizens have and have had the virus. Unfortunately, a significant portion of the KState fan base (and most others as well) are at an age where contracting the virus poses significant health risks. Most fans understand the risks. This fan won’t be attending any games until an effective vaccine and/or treatment is developed. And believe me, strong, healthy athletes aren’t totally immune to the cv. If one just happens to have an immune deficiency, they could be in serious trouble.

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Post by stlcatfan » April 17th, 2020, 1:33 pm

Hypeman wrote:
April 17th, 2020, 12:49 pm
Number8son wrote:
April 17th, 2020, 10:38 am


There's so much Covid 10 hysteria it has stopped all reasonable thought in my mind. Having players with Covid 19 should not be an issue, They are healthy or at least should be along with coaches and staff who have to healthy for what they do. I don't care if I go to a game and there's a Covid 19 carrier right next to me. If I catch Covid 19(assuming I haven't already had without realizing it like thousands of people), I'm not concerned because of several factors. The world is not a riskless society. Suddenly, in the last two months some people have decided otherwise with the only emphasis on Covid 19.
I’m with you on that, but the news says healthy people are dying too? I believe it is sensationalized, but if regular students can’t go to class, faculty can’t do their research, labs are shut down, etc. and in environments where people don’t touch one another. Sending a group out on the field for our entertainment would be considered barbaric and perhaps borderline criminal.

I think football is done. Especially in the Midwest where the covid response is just starting to ramp up. Perhaps it can take place in California where they claim to be on the downward swing. We out here are supposedly several weeks behind in reaching the peek.
I just hope we don't act too hastily. I don't want the NCAA announcing in April that the 2020 football season is cancelled. I thought I had read that here in St. Louis we were supposed to hit the peak in the next week or two. That means we should be seeing fewer new cases as we move into May and onward into the summer months. I imagine it will be that way for many other parts of the country as well.

We are learning more about this disease and its spread each and every day. While we can't ignore the legitimate health concerns the virus poses, we also can't make decisions based on fear and hysteria. Let's give it time and see where things stand a month from now before making some very serious decisions about the future. JMO.
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Post by kswildcat » April 17th, 2020, 2:48 pm

I can't imagine the NCAA acting hastily to cancel the 2020 football season. As I watch the numbers progress and project where Kansas will be in the weeks ahead I can see players being welcomed back in mid June and classes starting on time for the fall semester for best case scenario. Even if players can't come back until July I would expect a slightly shorter and possibly slightly delayed season.

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Post by MajorAppleCat » April 17th, 2020, 8:17 pm

I say KState football players ought to suit up, go to the game, and if no one else shows up claim the Big XII and National title in 2020.
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Post by Number8son » April 17th, 2020, 10:41 pm

MajorAppleCat wrote:
April 17th, 2020, 8:17 pm
I say KState football players ought to suit up, go to the game, and if no one else shows up claim the Big XII and National title in 2020.
There you go. :)

In my mind, there's no need to wait for a vaccine. One can boost their ability significantly to fight off Covid 19 by doing all the basic things that everyone knows. Waiting and hoping for a 100% effective vaccine that fits everyone's double helix is a pipe dream to me. By the time a vaccine comes out, it is like that only small percentage will need it.

Anybody can come up with a 1000 what ifs to stop any sport. People should avoid certain sports, etc if they think they have an issue.

If I was a player, I would be extremely disappointed not to be able to play. I feel for them.

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Post by bshea85 » April 22nd, 2020, 10:54 am

Why can't they just start the season January 2020? That would be one wild semester with all the sports, all at the same time! The football players then take the Summer off, with the next season happening Fall 2020. Sure, recruiting timelines would get a little weird, but look at the upside. This way, KU can finally claim that the stadium is empty because everyone's at the basketball game! :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Post by tmcats » April 22nd, 2020, 11:06 am

there's talk of spring football. it's certainly an option to get us to a c'virus vaccine. start schedule march first through mid-may. :fistbump:
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