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[stlcatfan]

Wow I hope your not involved with any kind of motivation or management type scenario's. Might as well shutter the whole program if a Snyder is not at the helm

I'm a realist. KState has no history of being a coaching destination. It does not have the money, the recruiting base, or the natural attractions to be a coaching destination. Quite the opposite, except for Snyder, KState is better known to be a coaching graveyard. (Look to the North East and you will see a similar comparison.)

If, and when KU finally pulls their head out, and spends money on facilities, they will be a more attractive coaching destination than KState.

Bill Snyder (a Hall of Fame coach, no less) has proved that K-State can be a coaching destination. He had many offers from other schools, but stayed here, and will likely retire here. My guess is Sean or Jim Leavitt will do the same if they are hired.

I have to also respectfully disagree with your last statement. I certainly think doing those things you mentioned would help KU close the gap, but unless the K-State football program falls back to the pre-1989 days, K-State will be just as attractive or more attractive to KU when it comes to football.

KU is a basketball school, first and foremost. Football, at least in the modern era, has always played second fiddle to basketball at KU. Most of the students at KU could care less about their football program. Their program right now is a downright embarrassment, but even if you look back over their entire history, they have been a below average program overall.

[Bannor95]

I'm a realist. KState has no history of being a coaching destination. It does not have the money, the recruiting base, or the natural attractions to be a coaching destination. Quite the opposite, except for Snyder, KState is better known to be a coaching graveyard. (Look to the North East and you will see a similar comparison.)

If, and when KU finally pulls their head out, and spends money on facilities, they will be a more attractive coaching destination than KState.[/quote]

How do we know we arent a destination job until we actually go out and find a new coach. Also, if we show we are small and dont pay, then yea we will never be a destination job.

Right but for the last 20 years we have been relevant. We now have facilities to attract players and we have the TV money to PAY coaches. Im sorry but I have been to Lincoln, NE and it isnt any better than Manhattan. The only difference is NU put money into their football program. Notice KU gets good talent at basketball because that is where they put their money. They are paying their Bball Coach more than their football coach. ISU is paying their head coach 3.5 million now. I think KSU can afford a top competitive coach. with our mindset that we dont have any money, then bank of NEVER having a good winning team again.

Sean hire is a bad hire IMO. the only contacts he know to hire are ex football players and currently, who is he going to hire to be OC and DC? inexperiened coaches for one. yea he can move coleman and klein to be co-oc or hire michael smith? also is any coaches going to following Dimel to UTEP?? again, Sean might know the program, but so do BV, Leavitt, Beliema.

What Gene Taylor needs to do is go out and find 3 coaches of his own and interview those 3 with Sean and have a board there to help interview the candidates.

[ksusmcsgtmaj]

I'm a realist. KState has no history of being a coaching destination. It does not have the money, the recruiting base, or the natural attractions to be a coaching destination. Quite the opposite, except for Snyder, KState is better known to be a coaching graveyard. (Look to the North East and you will see a similar comparison.)

If, and when KU finally pulls their head out, and spends money on facilities, they will be a more attractive coaching destination than KState.

How do we know we arent a destination job until we actually go out and find a new coach. Also, if we show we are small and dont pay, then yea we will never be a destination job.

Right but for the last 20 years we have been relevant. We now have facilities to attract players and we have the TV money to PAY coaches. Im sorry but I have been to Lincoln, NE and it isnt any better than Manhattan. The only difference is NU put money into their football program. Notice KU gets good talent at basketball because that is where they put their money. They are paying their Bball Coach more than their football coach. ISU is paying their head coach 3.5 million now. I think KSU can afford a top competitive coach. with our mindset that we dont have any money, then bank of NEVER having a good winning team again.

Sean hire is a bad hire IMO. the only contacts he know to hire are ex football players and currently, who is he going to hire to be OC and DC? inexperiened coaches for one. yea he can move coleman and kavitt, Beliema.

What Gene Taylor needs to do is go out and find 3 coaches of his own and interview those 3 with Sean and have a board there to help interview the candidates.[/quote]
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Boom. Your first two paragraphs hit the bullseye. Manhattan is better spot than we give it credit for. Not going to run a list of the cities, but its better than a ton of places that schools with higher recruiting classes call home. If you show the money, the players and coaches will come.

KU is a basketball coach destination because of the time/effort/money the university put in. KSU can be the same for FB.

[MajorAppleCat]

How do we know we arent a destination job until we actually go out and find a new coach. Also, if we show we are small and dont pay, then yea we will never be a destination job.

Right but for the last 20 years we have been relevant. We now have facilities to attract players and we have the TV money to PAY coaches. Im sorry but I have been to Lincoln, NE and it isnt any better than Manhattan. The only difference is NU put money into their football program. Notice KU gets good talent at basketball because that is where they put their money. They are paying their Bball Coach more than their football coach. ISU is paying their head coach 3.5 million now. I think KSU can afford a top competitive coach. with our mindset that we dont have any money, then bank of NEVER having a good winning team again.

Sean hire is a bad hire IMO. the only contacts he know to hire are ex football players and currently, who is he going to hire to be OC and DC? inexperiened coaches for one. yea he can move coleman and kavitt, Beliema.

What Gene Taylor needs to do is go out and find 3 coaches of his own and interview those 3 with Sean and have a board there to help interview the candidates.
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Boom. Your first two paragraphs hit the bullseye. Manhattan is better spot than we give it credit for. Not going to run a list of the cities, but its better than a ton of places that schools with higher recruiting classes call home. If you show the money, the players and coaches will come.

KU is a basketball coach destination because of the time/effort/money the university put in. KSU can be the same for FB.

I've already posted the link on the winningest coaches in college football history. History proves my point. To argue with it or put on rose colored glasses is ridiculous.

That's not to say KState cannot find another enigma of a coach.... However, that would be a rarity. Patterson would have been the best candidate. BV is not coming back to Manhattan... so you might as well forget about him. At this point I do not see any former KState grad capable of filling the bill or understanding what it takes to win in Manhattan. Sean is probably the closest. I am willing to give him a shot. Again, if you want a comparison, look to Iowa State and how they have fared. They are similar to KState in many ways, and do not have a T Boone Pickens.

[wazucat]

We are a public institution, I believe we should have a genuine search for the next football coach at our university when ever Bill decides to hang up the headphones. If the search finds that Sean is the most qualified candidate, then so be it. I firmly believe we can do better than Sean. Bill has not earned the right to anoint his son as his successor.

[KITNooga]

Bill has not earned the right to anoint his son as his successor.

really not trying to disagree with that thought.

there might be another way to consider this: If I were a man who's given almost 30 years to a program, figured out the key pieces, approaches to take it from 'you guys really ought to stop playing football at K-State' to absolutely national prominence, perhaps better than anyone, there's an understanding of what it takes to DO that and which PERSON might best be positioned to continue/build on that.

No argument that opening it up AND giving Sean a legit chance is appropriate.

would hate to hire the next KIFFIN and have passed on Sean.

[02Cat]

Sean seems to be a nice guy. However I don't see Sean carrying a lot of weight with recruits. I would rather have a guy like BV who could come in and give our recruiting a immediate upgrade.

I’ve been told that Sean can be a bit of a dick, but overall he’s okay. Recruiting is the name of the game. Does he inspire a kid to go to KSU over other schools???

[hilltopwildcat]

Loyalty or oligarchy?

one more piece of info:
HCBS did not want Prince. that turned out to be a pretty good decision
HCBS does think Sean is the guy. only time will tell if we get the opportunity to FIND OUT if that is also a good decision.

False. http://www.espn.com/college-football/ne ... id=2246151

[NealyFan]

I have no idea if Snyder actually wanted him or not, but Snyder should be a large voice in the next hire, just not the only one.

[tmcats]

i'd follow bill snyder's direction before gene taylor, who, with all due respect, has brought zero to this point in time except to tell us he doesn't write very well. all this trust in his judgment is rather amusing after a quarter century of the wizard.